Tuesday, October 15, 2013

Tales from One Thousand and One Nights

"The Fisherman and the Jinnee"
"The Historical Fart"
"Kafur the Black Eunuch"

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  1. "The Historical Fart"
    Abu Hasan made extremely over dramatic with how he reacted to his fart the day of the wedding and feast. He was celebrating a happy moment in his life of getting married and he had one bad thing happen which turned around his whole situation. Now instead of living with his new wife, he rides off on his horse and boards a ship to India to get away; hoping no one will ever remember him and his fart. It is something that is natural and everyone does it so he shouldn't have been as embarrassed as he was, maybe for a few minutes but not for 10 long years that he wouldn't even return to his native town. I believe by running off and leaving the country it made his fart seem much worse and become so much more well known to the rest of the town that they remember it years later. If he would've simply acknowledged what he did there could have been a different result. At one point the author says, "he almost died of his self-imposed exile", he was so upset that he had to leave his town that he almost died from it, I feel it is very much over dramatic and Abu Hasan could've changed his future completely by acting differently.
    LJac

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    1. I agree with you Luke, he made a really big deal out of nothing. He had a noble status, had money, and just got married. But all because of a fart he abandons all of it including his homeland for ten years. And after he returns after ten years he overhears a mother telling her child, "You were born in the year that Abu Hasan farted!" He yet again flees his homeland to never be seen again. If he didn't run away over something stupid nobody would have been telling stories about his fart.

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    2. I definitely agree with you, Luke. In the "Historic Fart," Abu Hasan was very over dramatic at the wedding feast with the way he reacted after he let a fart out. He should have never taken it out of proportion because it was supposed to be a happy day with his bride. I also feel like he thought people might look at him like the bad guy so he rode his horse to the dock which he later boarded a boat that would take him to India. I agree with Luke when he said that the farting is a natural thing that happens to everyone and he should have never overreacted. Also I agree that maybe he should feel embarrassed for a few minutes but definitely not for 10 years. By running off and leaving the wedding it made the situation worse because now everyone thinks he is a trader and didn't want to marry her. When he returned after many years he overheard a mother telling her child that you were born in the same year as the fart which made him run away to his homeland. I think the message that the author was trying to get across was that running away from your problems isn't going to make them any better. You should try and fix them and move on.

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    3. It's apparent that Abu Hasan was overly dramatic, but I believe the less apparent selfishness of Abu Hasan needs much more consideration. A simple fart may have caused Abu Hasan detrimental anxiety, but that does not excuse his departure. While departing he shows no signs of regret when leaving the woman he was just about to marry, nor the life he could have potentially lived as a wealthy man with a beautiful wife, a life many envious, less privileged people would desperately seize. Instead he departs for India thinking nothing of the matter. His selfishness is again made evident when he finally returns after ten long years and doesn’t wish to see his wife or friends; he merely wants to know if people still remember his fart.

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    4. I believe Abu Hasan was over dramatic in creating this tale but I also feel that he was trying to get the point across of how just one small moment can effect your life forever. Also, if people remember this moment for that long of a period that is actually pretty sad cause nothing else in that period of time happened that could top this event. Because of this I find this tale very dramatic. I agree with Louis with the fact he was selfish which is also shown throughout this tale
      CArn

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    5. Guys, I agree with you. This story is over dramatic in many ways. One way is that he farted and he feels embarrassed. In many ways that is embarrassing but not to go to the courtyard to cry about it and end up sailing to India. I feel the author is out of his mind with the dramatics in this tale. Another way it is over dramatic is that when he goes back to his hometown and hears the mother talking to the daughter in which she says you were born on the day of the fart, that is so unrealistic in so many ways. No one will ever remember or even mark a fart as a Holiday. These story was interesting but just to dramatic for my taste in literature.
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    6. I can completely agree with luke. Farting is something that everyone does and should be taken so seriously. I fealt that he especially overacted because no one had even reacted to his fart. He couldhave easily continued his wedding and wouldn't have had to remember the incident. By running away from his home town I felt that he was looked at much worse than someone who farted at his wedding, but instead he is known as the over dramatic man who ran away. I also agree with lou when he says that he is selfish. I believe that maybe he never exactly loved his wife enough if he was that eager to run away from her.

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    7. Although pretty evident I disagree with the idea of Abu Hasan's rash decision being dramatic. I believe Abu Hasan’s reaction to the current circumstance is supported plainly by social anxiety. Social anxiety involves intense fear of certain social situations, especially ones that are unfamiliar or in which you feel you will be watched or evaluated by others. These social situations may be so frightening that one gets anxious just thinking about them, and goes through great lengths to avoid them. Social anxiety is not helped easily and perhaps it was best for him and his companions that he did take leave, and although feel homesick, live a normal life, not going day by day embarrassed and uncomfortable. After considering what Abu Hasan himself is going through, hopefully one evaluates his situation with less hostility, but with more compassion and sympathy.

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  2. I agree with Luke, if Abu Hasan owned up to what he did, his problem would have ended shortly after and would have been easily forgotten. The author wanted to show the reader that since Hasan ran away to escape his problems instead of facing them, his problem did not go away. Even after many years Hasan goes back to his homeland to see if everyone has forgotten about his indecent and finds out that it is still talked about and referred to as a date. This message is important for modern day society to know that their mistakes must be addressed before they can be forgotten.

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    1. Chris, I agree 100% that people should own up to their mistakes before they can be forgotten. Of course this point is seen through Abu Hasan. Although it sounds comical and quite ridiculous, Hasan's fart was not forgotten because he never owned up to it. Although I feel a simple fat couldn't possibly be remembered for years, the point is definitely made and i support it.

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    2. I agree with all of you guys, people make mistakes all the time and don't own up to their mistakes which makes it so much worst. As they said Abu Hasan didn't own up to what he did which was not even that bad. By not owning up it made it worst because he tried to escape the problem and just get away so every one can just forget about it, but because he didn't own up to it when he came back to the town after many years every one remembered him and knew exactly what he did. Most people in today's would do exactly the same as what Abu did maybe not try to escape but definitely not own up to their mistakes. Their was plenty of times when i made mistakes and didn't own up to it. By not owning up to my mistake it ended up make it so much worst because every time i saw this person or thought about it, it just drives me crazy and upset that i did this, especially when people bring my mistake up and then it just makes me upset that i didn't owe up to it because i feel if i owned up to the mistake people wouldn't mind or care as much because they know that i messed up and it was a mistake. People make mistakes all the time and i just feel people should just man up and own up to whatever you did.

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  3. In the story "the fisherman and the jinnee" we see that the jinnee once freed asks the fishermen how he wants to be killed. This is very different than what is generally associated with jinnee's and how they help and grant wishes. However the fisherman tricks the jinnee into going back into the bottle and then tells him stories about the king and the doctor and sinbad and the falcon and more. This story all stems back on how the princess that married the king made a clever plan to escape death by telling him a story every night. So the fisherman tells the jinnee the stories and his main viewpoint was to be merciful towards others and God will be merciful toward you. I think in this story religion plays a huge factor and karma is essentially the message that the fisherman conveys to the jinnee.

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    1. Gary, I agree with you that the fisherman telling the story to the jinnee and tricking him back into the bottle stems from the princess' clever plan. However, i disagree with you that this story's religion is about Karma. Karma is from the Indian religion, and the Quran states nothing about Karma.

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    2. Out of the three tales, "The fisherman and the jinee" was one of my favorite. I do agree with you, by saying religion played a huge role in this tale. I disagree with it totally about karma, because in this tale the characteristic of karma is not shown throughout each event. However, in each event throughout this tale religion is used to help and explain each event.

      CArn

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    3. I agree with you Gary, this jinee is different than most jinnee's we've seen. While the jinee was trapped in the bottle he promises that he would reward whoever saved him. But after many centuries passed he decides to let the person who freed him choose how they want to die. And after the fisherman tricks the jinee he tells him stories about the king of Yunan who didn't spare the sage of Duban's life and ended up dead because of it. With your point on Karma I agree, the jinee is again trapped in the bottle because he was going to make the fisherman pick how he should die . The jinee doing something bad ended up making him trapped in the bottle again. But he was lucky the fisherman released him for he might have been stuck inside for many more centuries. Also with the story of the king, he dies because he didn't spare the sages life who had cured the king of his leprosy in a miraculous way.

      DDan

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    4. Gary, I agree with the all the points that you have made. Usually a jinnee is used in a fairy tale to help the person who summoned the jinnee. Instead the jinnee is useless to the person and wants him dead. In Aladdin, the jinnee helps Aladdin and grants the wishes that Aladdin asks for. The jinnee in "The Fisherman and The Jinnee" gives the fisherman no wishes, but instead gives him no choice but to kill the fisherman. Also jinnee's tend to try and trick their summoner, but in this particular tale the summoner tricks the jinnee to go back in the bottle. I feel that religion also plays a role in this tale because the fisherman often uses the words Allah would have mercy on you.

      JVer

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    5. I completely agree with gary in saying that karma is a HIDDEN message that is conveyed within the story. In flat out isn't shown but you have to use prior knowledge to realize that. I agree with saying be merciful to others and god will be merciful toward you, and that is basically karma. Treat others the way you want to be treated and if you do something bad, then what goes around comes around. I also agree with Joe Verdi when he says the jinnee tends to try and trick their summoner. An example is in Aladdin when the jinnee states that nobody has ever wished for him to be freed from his bottle, i don't necessarily remember what that is called. He makes aladdin feel bad and plays reverse physcology. Therefore Aladdin feels bad and says when he has one wish left he will summon the jinnee to be free.

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  4. During our discussion in class about "The Historical Fart" we came to an understanding that society in this particular story seems to accept who they are and are comfortable with their bodily functions. At the moment of the discussion I didn't really see how the story shows that. But after thinking about it for a while I thought that this story does teach a lesson that us as humans we should accept how we are because it is natural. Abu Hasan, the main character, becomes embarrassed because he farted during his wedding feast. He overreacts and decides to leave his country thinking nobody would remember his fart. Little does he know all that he is doing is making his situation bigger than it is. Instead of being known as the noble man who just got married, he's known as the man with the "Historical Fart" who ran away for 10 years out of embarrassment. If he just stayed home and accepted that he farted everything would've been normal. The society had no intention to make it a big deal after that night, the only reason it became a big deal was because Abu made it one. The lesson becomes clear that individuals should not feel embarrassed about anything because were all humans and all do the same things, its the way of nature

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    1. I agree with you Joe, although as humans we should try to avoid situations such as the one Hasan was in, it is natural and occasionally happens. However, when it does happen, we should avoid overreacting as Hasan did. He should have accepted that as humans we make mistakes, instead of fleeing the land only to magnify the impact of his mistake. Although the author uses a comical event to show how we should understand that humans make mistakes, it goes for everything else we experience in life. If you run away ever time you make a mistake you would be constantly leaving the places you live in. We have to recognize that at times we will make mistakes; we have to understand how to deal with them. Although Hasan thought it was his mistake that caused his embarrassment, it was actually the fashion in which he dealt with his mistake that lead to his embarrassment.

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    2. Joe, I agree with you. Everyone is human and makes mistakes at times. I wish I saw courage though from Hasan to stay and not flee to India. People only made a big deal because he left. Everyone gets embarrassed but causing a fart does not make someone just leave and not return for ten years. Although this story is very dramatic I personally think it satirizes that he couldn't stay in his homeland because he didn't have the courage to. The meaning of this story is not to run away from your mistakes and instead to fight through him and show courage.
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    3. Joe I totally agree with you. I too was confused by the story at first espcecially from its title alone. Abu Hassan is a great example of what not to do espcially as a society. I too saw the story as overly dramatic espcially when Abu fleed just because of something natural. What this story should teach to society is that we must realize we are not perfect. We are going to make mistakes and not let small incidents, such as a fart, not let them escalate into a terror. All humans are bound to make mistakes and move on from them

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  5. In the "Fisherman And The Jinnee", the fisherman is stuck in a difficult situation in which the Jinnee is angry about being stuck in his bottle for about two centuries. I feel that this fairy tale is different from all the other jinnee fairy tales because of the fact that the jinnee is not asking the summoner to give him a wish, but that the jinnee is actually demanding the fisherman what is going to happen to him which is death to the fisherman. Usually the jinnee is the character that is the one who is tricking the summoner, but in this particular tale the fisherman tricks the jinnee to get back into the bottle by baiting him back in the bottle by saying that he doesn't believe the jinnee could fit back in it.

    JVer

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    1. I agree with you Joe. I believe it is quite ironic that these two characters in this account have ultimately play opposite their normal roles. The jinnee who is freed by the fisherman, is claiming the "good news" he has brought to the fisherman is for him to decide how he wants to be killed. The fisherman is annoyed with the jinnee and argues about Samuel being a prophet of Allah rather then just making a normal wish for wealth or status. I also found it interesting that right before the fisherman casting his net in for the final time he says, "Allah knows that I cast my net only four times a day. I have already cast it for the third time and caught no fish at all. Surely He will not fail me again!" The irony of this is that what seems to be extremely valuable at first, the bottle possesses the jinnee who is delivering the "good news" of killing the fisherman. Lastly, I thought it was interesting that the jinnee initially disregardes the fisherman's question of "Why do you wish my death, what have I done to deserve it?" He does eventaully share the story in which explains his wanting to kill the fisherman but the fisherman out smarts the jinnee getting him back in the bottle.

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  6. "The Historical Fart"
    In my opinion this extremely brief account was ridiculous. A man becoming embarrassed of a fart, then fleeing to Lahej, only to comeback and realize people haven't forgot about it just to leave again. I found it quite interesting though when reading it that after the fat happens, "the embarrassed guests, whose attention had been fixed upon the bridegroom, turned to one another speaking with raised voices and pretending to have heard nothing at all." In my opinion, due to the bridegroom's status, the people disregard the fart although hearing it because they wouldn't want to embarrass him or offend him. Therefor there seems to me that there was no reason even for Abu to flee. Not only is farting natural, the people wouldn't even had made a big deal about it! This story in my opinion is trying to satirize how sometimes being over-dramatic is unnecessary and ridiculous.

    GDiS

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    1. I agree Gary, the man left the town because he thought he offended the other people at the party, but the other people were trying to not offend him by reacting. It seems that this story is portraying society as appearance oriented. The fact that the man picked up and left his home because he farted is very superficial, this proves that all he cares about is what society thinks of him. The people at the party also prove this, because they think this fart is such a big deal that they try not to react and make it seem like nothing happened.

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    2. I apologize mrs. fotinatos i don't know why but for some reason i thought i did a blog friday night. I know you asked for two separate days i apologize that it is on the same day.
      I agree with gary in saying this story is absolutely ridiculous, but again thats why it is a fairytale. I agree with gary in saying this story is a major satire in people being overdramatic that farting is natural and although is it obnoxious and disgusting its science and it how the human body works. He thought the crowd would be disgusted by his fart and felt like it was serious enough to leave town and i think that is extremely overdramatic. Nobody would really leave their town over a fart. I think people need to realize that they need to stop being so judgmental. Im not saying that the people in the book were judgmental toward him but that is why he left the town because he was embarrassed and thought that people would tease him or make fun or what ever. People need to realize that they fart too and that it happens there really isn't anything you can do about it. He needs to not be careless, but to care a little bit less about certain things that aren't a big deal, like farting for example.

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  7. In The Tale of Kafur the Black Eunuch, I believe the author tries to convey the messages that in life people must take responsibility for their mistakes and to not overreact when something doesn't go your way. As stated in the story, the master was fully aware that when he bought the boy, the boy came with a fault of telling one lie per year, regardless of the severity. The master ignores this fact and hires a barber to remove the testicles of the boy stating " You have taken away from me things that I have valued dearly; I have taken away from you things which you held most precious." I find this statement very ironic in the sense that technically the boy didn't take anything away from the master and all he did was stand by his word and tell his one lie. The lie didn't have much of an impact on the master's life because nothing changed as a result of the lie. Knowing this, the reader would think that the master's retaliation was extremely uncalled for and undeserving. In conclusion, the master should have realized that his purchase of the boy came with a fault, and he should have just moved on rather than overreacting.

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    1. I agree with you Tommy, in the sense that the retaliation of the master was unwarranted.Yes, the boy told a lie but the master knew that a lie would come from the boy once a year when he agreed to buying him. What the boy did was tell the master's wife and kids that their husband/father was killed by the garden wall collapsing on him. The boy then told his master that his wife and kids were killed by the walls of the house collapsing. I am not justifying the lies because they are wrong. But i agree the lies had no impact on anyones life. Sure for those few moments both parties grieved about their loss but it was just that, a few moments. Everything should have been back to normal once they all realized that everyone was alive and healthy. The boy did not deserve a castration because he did not take anything from his master. The master had to know that a lie was coming since he agreed to buying the boy with this one fault. However, I would agree with the master if he had punished the boy in another way.

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  8. Before I begin this post let me just start off by saying there is one area no one should ever go near for any reason and that is your testicles. With that in mind we turn to The Tale of Kafur the Black Eunuch and we think about whether or not the punishment he received is suitable or not. I do not think it was a good punishment for what Kafur did. First off, his master brought him knowing that he was going to tell a lie and does once a year no matter what the consequences may be. Now, we all can agree that the lie Kafur told was not a little fib and probably wasn't half a lie either but the point of the matter is that the master knew it was coming eventually. Second, what damage did the lie Kafur told do? Yes, I know everything collapsed but besides material goods being destroyed the master should be happy because his family isn't dead. Finally, the master had so many other options. I believe that what the master did should of been the last result. Try to have him thrown in jail or something but don't take away his man hood. If he wanted to he could of whipped Kafur, until his arms got tired. It's like a fight, no matter how badly you are loosing in a fight you never go for another mans area. It shows weakness if you have to so I feel that the master is a week person because he could of chosen another route. All in all the punishment does not fit the crime.

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    1. Although I agree with you that the master had already known that Kafur would have a fault in him, the master would not expect him to tell him such a big lie. The master might have overreacted but that was only because he had thought that he had lost all his possessions and family. By taking away from Kafur the only thing that he liked or cherished the master reminds him that his lie has not hurt the master and his family but hurt himself as well. This would be a lesson that Kafur would never forget and I feel that is the ultimate reason that the master takes such drastic measures rather than throwing him in jail or whipping him as Phil states.

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    2. I agree with you Gary, it will definitely be a lesson that Kafur would never forget, but I still agree with Phil that the punishment does not fit the crime. No matter how bad a lie is I don't not think the punishment the master gave Kafur was the right thing to do, especially if the master knows that Kafur lies once a year. I thought that the punishment should have been less severe because the master did not lose his family so why take away any chance of Kafur having a family of his own. It just didn't make sense to me why the master would do something that harsh to Kafur.

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  9. I believe that two of these stories were very odd. The only one that I found remotely interesting was The Fisherman and the Jinnee. I liked how that fisherman used his wit to outsmart the Jinnee. The other two stories seemed absolutely pointless to me. I see that they could possibly exemplify that society by their values and outlook on things, but I ask myself "why?" In the Historic Fart, I feel that he was way too hard on himself. It seems almost ridiculous and unnecessary to me. In the other story, I found it odd how the servant just casually tells that story. If it were me, I wouldn't want to speak of that ever, nor could I even imagine that scenario.. Anyways, I feel that the only story worth reading was The Fisherman and the Jinnee

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    1. Anthony, I am on the exact same page as you. I really felt like the other two stories were actually quite ridiculous in many senses. However, there could be one point brought out from the Historical Fart. One could discover that people should own up to their actions and shouldn't always be ashamed of them. But overall, I too agree that The Fisherman and the Jinnee was the only normal story out of the three.

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  10. In the "Fisherman And The Jinnee," the fisherman is valued for his quick wit. He demonstrates his ability to think on his feet when he is stuck in the middle of a life threatening situation. He deceives the jinnee into going back in the bottle in order to preserve his life. Similarly, Aladdin does this in the cave with the jinnee, in order to get out of the cave without using up a wish. It can also be observed of the ability to trick supernatural forces, meaning that just because they are supernatural does not mean they are any less gullible then human beings.

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  11. After reading "The Fisherman and Jinnee," I saw how the Jinnee acted in a way that most Jinnees never acted before. After three times throwing the cage in the water and gathering nothing worth his time, he finally becomes curious at the object he caught the fourth time. It was a bottle which was the home to a Jinnee. Once he took the seal off the bottle a Jinnee appeared to him and asked him how he would like to be killed. Most of the time Jinnees are associated with granting people wishes which is very different that what the Jinnee is portrayed in this tale. Typically in tales the Jinnee is summoned by a character to help them out with their problems. In this tale the Jinnee wants the fisherman to be killed but the fisherman tricks him. He says can I ask you one thing before you kill me, "How do you fit your whole body in there." The Jinnee showed the fisherman and he put the seal on the top and threw the bottle back into the ocean. I feel the lesson to be learned is that you should always try to out-smart or trick someone who is trying to do harm on you.

    JDeM

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    1. I agree with what you are saying here Joe, but there are two major things I think can be seen differently. Looking at when the jinnee first talks to the fisherman, he does not deliberately say he's going to murder him, he gives the fisherman the opportunity to choose how he wants to die, which in essence seems jinnee-like. Another point that I feel can be seen differently is the lesson you say is to be learned. I think a deeper message in this tale is that you should treat others the way you would want to be treated. I feel this message is better portrayed in the tale. I Disagree with your lesson morally because tricking people or out-smarting them is not always the best solution.

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    2. I agree with you Paul. I feel the jinnee is almost sarcastic as a jinnee would be, when the jinnee says, "I bring you good news,""News of your death, horrible and prompt!" The jinnee is being very blunt with the fisherman as a Jinnee would be. But if thats not enough just like Paul said when the jinnee tells the fisherman, "Choose the manner of your death and the way that I shall kill you." That really solidifies the point of being jinnee like. I totally agree with Paul's view of the moral of the story. I believe the theme of the story is that treating people the way you want to be treated, because if that wasn't the theme there would have been no point to the story and the jinnee would not have wanted to kill the fisherman, hence the fisherman would not have quick witted the jinnee to his death.

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  12. While reading the Fisherman and the Jinnie, I thought it was strange that there was a genie, but there were no wishes made. When I read the title, I figured that it would be another story about three wishes and magic. I thought that this different take on how at Jinne encounter would go. There are people who would try and wish for everything in the world, but there are also those who want nothing to do with magic. On the other side however, there can be Jinnies that will grant wishes and try to finish there punishment, but there are also Jinnies that will try to take revenge and try to kill the person who discovers them. This story was a different perspective on the Jinnie and I thought it was more realistic.

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    1. I agree with you Chris. Just like our other studies on folk tales and fairy tales, I assumed that this one would be similar. As I began reading the first sentence, it states how this is a poor fisherman who has to support a wife and three kids. Automatically I thought to myself, most likely, this fisherman is going to wish for money and materialistic things. However that was not the outcome. Despite this one being different, I was actually most intrigued with this one out of the three. I thought it had a real interesting plot twist. Throughout the story, the fisherman casts his net three times into the water. Three times in a row, he comes up with nothing that intriguing. On the final try, he catches a yellow bottle made of copper. When the fisherman opens this yellow bottle, a jinnee magically appears. The Jinnee says that he will kill this poor, hopeless, innocent fisherman. However, the fisherman questions how the Jinnee is able to completely fit inside the bottle and ultimately tricks him to going back into the bottle. This in my eyes was a complete plot twist. Throughout my studies of folk tales and fairy tales, I always felt that Jinnee's were always the smart yet slick ones. They reminded me of a sly fox. However, definitely not in this case as the fisherman tricks the Jinnee into returning into the bottle. I had trouble identifying a major theme throughout this folk tale at first, but however I did believe the messages in disguise were to treat others how you would like to be treated, to appreciate the little things in life, and lastly, to recognize how desperate people can become when they are in gritty situations. We can identify this by seeing how nasty the Jinnee is to this poor fisherman who just freed him. Also we can see how desperate the Jinnee becomes when the fisherman tricked him back into his bottle. The jinnee offers the fisherman "fabulous riches" but the fisherman rejects it. The fisherman didn't care about money for his family, he just wanted some respect which the jinnee did not show him. Ultimately, I enjoyed this folk tale the most simply because of the plot twist and the overall outcome of the story. #OMG #WOW

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    2. lol baum, I agree with saying that the jinnee is nasty to the fisherman and I think that you shouldn't be nasty or mean to people that are willing to help you with something

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  13. In "The Historic Fart" the way Abu reacted to his fart was overdramatic. He went to the extreme as to exile himself until he died because he was too embarrassed. This shows how their culture makes a fart seem so taboo. It is a simple bodily function but it is made to be such a horrible thing. This particular view on farting is not just in this culture, but all other cultures too. I think that this story is trying to say that we are making some minor natural things seem so bad. I think that the story uses the way Abu reacts to his fart in such an overdramatic way to show that, in today's world, we see normal bodily things in a bad way. I think that the story tells us that we should not make these normal bodily actions so forbidden.

    CBra

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  14. I think that the only story that we read this week with a true meaning is The Fisherman and the Jinnie. The other two stories ahve no important messages that i can see. In the Fisherman and the Jinnie we can see that wit can outsmart even some of the greatest powers. The messages portrayed in the other two stories are hard to understand and can be taken different ways by different people. In the Black Unic we see that lying can cause you more harm then you expect, and in the Historical Fart we can sort of see a message that people should be more comfortable in their bodies. Both of these messages are really hard to understand through their stories and one must scrutinize the stories to see them.

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  15. Of all three fairy tales, it was "The Fisherman and the Jinnie" that enticed me the most. It shows a very interest perspective on the role of Jinnie's in literature. For me personally it was the first time I've seen a jinnie play the role of an antagonist. I enjoyed the progression of this story, working from a religious standpoint, to teaching a valuable lesson. The Indian religion and the use of allah, shows the fisherman's strong beliefs, especially when he tells the jinnie, "By Allah, I will throw you back into the sea." The fisherman's actions directly reflect his religious beliefs and the things he does resemble the ideas of Allah. Reading this tale, the irony shown is clear between the events of the jinnie and the fisherman. At first, the jinnie is angry and is going to kill the fisherman, until the fisherman outsmarts the jinnie and tricks him into going back into the bottle, and essentially ends the life of the jinnie, just as the jinnie would've ended his life. The lesson that I feel is taught in this tale is do unto others as you would want done to yourself. If the jinnie was nice and i guess the typical jinnie, it would not of been thrown back into the sea against its will.

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  16. Unlike most of the other students, I see a purpose and a message inside the tale of “The Historical Fart”. In the text it just seems to be bad humor, but I see the text as showing an insecurity in the character that is only noticed because he blew it out of proportion. Everyone in the world has something that they’re insecure about, and when there called upon it they often get angry or get upset by it. I believe this tale is showing a man named Abu Hassan who has obvious wealth, shown by the the wedding, “he celebrated the wedding with a sumptuous feast, to which he invited his near and distant kinsfolk, the ulema and fakirs of the town, and friends and acquaintances from all over the countryside. His whole house was thrown open to the wedding guests. There was rice of every hue and flavour, sherbets, lambs stuffed with walnuts...”. This statement validates that Abu was wealthy for being able to afford the ceremony, he had family and friends he had to invite and in previous text it says his new wife was beautiful like the moons reflection on the water. From the stand point of the reader you don’t see any issues with this man other then his first wife who passed away. So why run away, because he was insecure of what other people thought of him. After his first wife died, he originally did not want to be married, but when he was pressured by his friends, he agreed to get married. All people in the world shouldn’t let other people make their decisions for them, you should be your own person with your own choices, and if people don’t take you for you, you don’t belong around those people.

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  17. "The Tale of Kafur the Black Eunuch"
    After reading this tale I am shocked at the "half lie" that Kafur told, he tricked his master and his master's family very evilly. When the master bought him and he told him he lies once a year, it is understandable that he was willing to overlook it because I even expected it to just be a small lie that most people tell on a daily basis, so for him to only lie once a year is actually a good thing compared to most people. His lie was not a small lie, to tell someone that their family has died and everything they own has been destroyed is cruel, and to tell a family that their father/husband has died is equally as bad. It was a mistake for the master to buy Kafur in the first place, I was happy to find out he did not let him finish the other half of his lie and that he brought him to the market to be sold because Kafur deserved it for telling such a horrible lie.
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  18. In my opinion, I think that "The Historic Fart" was a completely ridiculous story. However, I do think that it teaches the reader that we blame and punish ourselves for things we cant control. Abu Hasan has no reason to leave the entire country, i think that everyone wouldve forgot about him farting by the end of the wedding reception. It even says in the story" The embarrassed guests, whose attentions had been fixed upon the bridegroom, turned to one another speaking with raised voices and pretending to have heard nothing at all." The guests were about to let it go, because they've all farted once in their lives, Abu's just happened to be bad timing. And to leave right away and abandon your new wife on your wedding day, is just wrong. To me, Abu is a coward, he should've maned up and went on to live his life with his new wife. Going back to my original point, Abu had no control over his fart, like i said before, it was just bad timing.

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  19. In my favorite fairy tale, "The fisherman and the Jinnie" the protagonist the fisherman cast his net four times a day in an attempt to provide for his family. The fisherman's faith is put to the test when after his third time casting his net he still has not caught any fish. In desperation the fisherman turns to his religious roots and prays to Allah for help and for some fish as he cast his net for the last time. Instead of fish, in this net was a yellow copper bottle with a stopper sealed by the great Solomon, son of David. Inside of this bottle is a jinnie, who is the opposite of the normal fairy tale genie. This jinnie has been down in the sea for hundreds of years and flew into rage. The jinnie wants to take his rage out on the fisherman, but cannot because the fisherman outsmarts him and sends him back into the sea for eternity. I feel reading this tale, that Allah may have went against the fisherman, by potentially making the yellow bottle be in his net. Seeing what came from this bottle was a enraged jinnie out to kill him, Allah may have not been looking out for the fisherman who asked for his help.
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  20. Earlier in the week during class we had a conversation about why would they write about a tart and how nobody would have the nerve to write about this now. A classmate of mine Alex Baum I though made a good point that back then they did not have a lot of entertainment and their range of ideas were not as wide as people's today so I think that that is why this kind of topic would be written about back then and not today.

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  21. Throughout reading "The Historic Fart" I found it to be everything that I expected. Just the title makes one chuckle. The story was absolutely ridiculous especially due to Abu's reactions to his fart. Although the story can be seen and read as a very unlikely type of story, it does have a very important meaning. It sends a strong message to society. As a society, we may tend to overreact to little mistakes that we escalate into absolute terror. We must realize that mistakes, big or small are going to happen regardless of what we try to do. We are human and mistakes are what is expected of us. We, as a society must see that we are not perfect and even little stupid things such as a bodily function "mishap" are just natural functions. Abu is a great example of what not to do and how not to react to a little mishap. Although none of us are going to flee to a different part of the world because of a fart, but it shows that we must not make things that are not that bad into a huge deal of misunderstanding.

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  22. I think that the story of "The Historic Fart " was totally ridiculous. First the story was about a person who fatted. Then because of this tart he leaves the entire country in shame. The mans name is Hasan and he farts at his wedding reception which is supposed to be the happiest day of his life is destroyed because of a silly event.

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    1. I agree, the whole idea of the story is very ridiculous. The man exiles himself because of a minor event. The whole story, to me, seems childish. It seems to me that this story is not for a mature audience because it is about someone who farted. Abu let such a childish thing destroy the best day of his life. He should not have let that happen. In my opinion, even though this story teaches society that they should not overreact to such minor things, this story is ridiculous. Just the fact that it is about a man who literally farted makes it very farfetched. This story is childish and should not be read by adults. Kids are the only people who will actually be interested in the story. The title itself would make most adults turn away. Children are the only people who can read this story and understand the message. If an adult reads it they will brush off the story, disregarding its message and say that the story is too childish. I think that kids are the only ones that will understand the meaning of "The Historic Fart."

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    2. I agree with your statement, but the author uses this preposterous story to convey an important message. The important message that comes out of this story is to not care about what society thinks of you. In this story he is so embarrassed about what society thinks about him that he leaves. When he comes back he overhears people talking about the "fart" he is too self conscious about what other people think about him for good and leaves. If he were to just put everything that happened aside he could've enjoyed the rest of his life not caring what other people think about him.

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  23. In the story of The Fisherman and the Jinnie, it demonstrates that good will always prevail even at the bleakest times. The fisherman was poverty stricken and had a rough haul for the day. He only casts his net four times ,because of his religious affiliations , a day, and the first three times that day were all garbage. On his fourth haul, he found a brass bottle that arose a spiteful Jinnie. This powerful Jinnie was about to easily kill this innocent man but alas the fisherman outwitted the Jinnie. Even with all odds set against the fisherman, good still prevailed. When the prince was immobilized and continually tormented by the wicked wife it seemed that there was no hope for him or his kingdom. Somehow the Sultan found his way to the palace. The chances of someone even discovering this terrible predicament was slim to none. The sultan was able to fool the wife (just like the fisherman fooled the Jinnie) and help the prince and his kingdom. This story portrays the evil as fools, and the good as intelligent.

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  24. After reading the tale of “The Fisherman and the Jinnee” I took away two different point of views. My first point of view was irony, like in the short story “Aladdin” a Jinnee is portrayed to be a scary looking but a rather nice individual. Normally when you hear of a jinnee in a bottle you think of getting a wish granted or a positive out look on your future, but it was different in this tale. After not being taken out of the bottle for eighteen hundred years the Jinnee took out his frustration on the Fisherman which ultimately backfires into my second point of view, karma. The Jinnee told the Fisherman the only wish he had was to pick the way he wanted to be killed. Being so fast to make a move the Jinnee was tricked to trapping himself in the bottle after the Fisherman pleads for the Jinnee not to kill him. Maybe if the Jinnee wasn't so hostile he would of enjoyed his time out of the bottle, instead of being tossed back into the ocean.

    CCar

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  25. In "The Fisherman and the Jinnee" I was quite surprised with the Jinnee. The first thing that surprised me was how different this Jinnee was from the one in Aladdin. I thought that all Jinnee’s did was grant wishes so to hear that this one wanted to kill the one that sent him free was very different. I feel that the Jinnee should have acted different as well. He should have been happy that he was freed and rewarded the fisherman instead of letting him pick his own death. Another thing that surprised me was the interaction between the Jinnee and the fisherman when he was trapped again. Usually the only time people and Jinnee’s are seen interacting is when they are out in the open, however, the fisherman was able to tell him a whole story while he was trapped and the Jinnee than convinced him to set him free again. When we read Aladdin we were told that Jinnee’s are demons and bad creatures however it wouldn’t seem like that especially when they are granting your every wish. “The Fisherman and the Jinnee” finally portrays a Jinnee as exactly that, a demonic, bad creature. In this story the Jinnee was sent away and trapped by the gods for his wrong doings and then when he was freed his first words were along the lines of killing someone. All in all this Jinnee was different and to be honest I really was not a big fan of it.

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    1. I disagree a little in the sense of phil saying that the jinnee's were quite different from each tale. I think that in some ways they are similar. I say this because in this tale the jinnee plays reverse physcology in trying to persuade him to wish for him to be free from the bottle that he is trapped in for granting people their wish. He does this in Aladdin as well when he basically feels sorry for himself and tries to make Aladdin feel bad and tries to get him to use his last wish on the jinnee to release him from the bottle. Aladdin foolishly agrees and says that after he makes his two wishes he will make his third wish to free the jinnee from the bottle and the jinnee becomes very happy.

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  26. I believe the author's purpose of writing The Fisherman and the Jinnee was to convey the message that you shouldn't take out your anger on people who aren't the source of your anger. Nothing good can come out of something when you blame people who aren't blameworthy. In the story, when the fisherman frees the jinnee from the bottle, the jinnee immediately tells the fisherman that he must choose the way he wants to die. The jinnee acknowledges that he has been in the bottle for over two hundred years, but ironically the fisherman played no role in the jinnee's imprisonment in the ocean, so why must he die? Foolishly, the jinnee is tricked by the fisherman to prove that he can fit into the bottle and as a result the fisherman encloses the jinnee back in the bottle. In the end, the jinnee got what he deserved after threatening to end the fisherman's life as a result of his anger.

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    1. I agree Tom. I feel that the bitterness of the Jinnee should have been greatfulness. After all, the fisherman freed him from a spellbound life. Then he goes a tries to kill him? It wasn't his fault that the Jinnee got trapped. I completely agree that you should limit your anger to those who anger you.

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    2. I agree with you Tom. The Jinnie should have been more and more grateful as time went on. Without the fisherman opening the bottle who knows how long he would have stayed there. Freeing someone is a work of kindness and should be greeted with thanks and not death. The Jinnie should have given his hero more wishes as time went on instead of the punishment of death.

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  28. After my read of "The Fisherman and the Jinnee" I took a differnt perspective on jinnees. This jinnee was cast away in the ocean for over eighteen hundred years but jinnees never die so why would he be bitter to the one who freed him. I understand the jinnee not liking the idea of being in a bottle for eighteen hundred years. The jinnee should just be grateful that someone eventually did find him. Instead the jinnee tells the fisherman that his reward is to chose his own faith of how the jinnee should execute him. This is unfair and gives people a differnt out look on jinnees. Jinees are suppose to bring you good fortune and grant wishes. This jinnee is only out to kill and it proves him to be very bitter. This tale prevails that not everything is as it seems. I am sure the fisherman would have thought that some wish granting was coming his way. Instead he gets the choice of his own execution. The story also proves that if you are a bitter person and show no mercry on people that bad things will continue to happen to you.

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  29. In kafur the balck eunech I felt that the master was ver naive. When he purchases kafur he is warned of his one fault, that he tells on lie a year. Which makes me wonder why he wouldn't question the fact that his house had fallen and killed his entire family and animals. If o were him I would have checked my house before I began to beat my head over the lose of my family. I also felt that the punishment was a bit cruel. The master knew what he was going yo lie once and it was his only fault for not realizing and cutting off his marbles was completely unnecessary.

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